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From The Otherside in Halong Bay, Vietnam on Mar 08 '07

KevHolls has visited 1 place in Halong Bay
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View of Halong Bay from the cave
View of Halong Bay from the cave
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Kevin and I opted to take the public bus rather than do the whole tour thing from Hanoi to Halong Bay, on the coast of Vietnam. Well, we chose poorly with that

decision. Our taxi driver was supposed to bring us to the bus station and, instead, decided to drop us off on the side of the road at (looking at it now)

You buy from me! You buy from me nowwww!

probably the first public bus he came across. We kept asking the bus driver and the man who collected the money, "Halong Bay? This bus goes to Halong Bay?"

Making friends - Kevin and Tung, at Bamboo Bar
Making friends - Kevin and Tung, at Bamboo Bar
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Getting our money, of course his answer was, "Yes, yes, Halong Bay." So a very crammed, yet surprisingly comfortable (no locals getting sick!) two-hour long

bus ride later... we arrived in... Hai Phong! We saw this one coming from miles away - in Hanoi. Hai Phong is actually Vietnam's third-largest city and is supposed to have the feeling of Vietnam of old. Our impression is that are not as many motorbikes as in Hanoi, but there are just as many people hassling you

to buy stuff. We had to keep on keeping on to get to Halong City (where we were supposed to be heading), so we found a metered taxi (who spoke absolutely no English) and managed to translate to him where we needed to go through a nice Vietnamese man who could tell we were in trouble, especially since we were the most obvious tourists in the town. Come to think of

Holly "sunning herself" on the sundeck
Holly "sunning herself" on the sundeck
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it, we were the only tourists in Hai Phong. I guess those happy little tourists who had booked the whole tour to Halong Bay were happily on their way to the

right city. Our driver had never been on a highway before and you could definitely tell. He was gripping the wheel like he was superglued to it and driving

about 15-10 km/hr, honking NON-STOP. He would stop every 15 minutes to ask directions (as he probably only drives in Hai Phong), but what matters is that

somehow miraculously he got us to exactly where we wanted to go: The Thong Nhat 2 Hotel in Halong City. Who cares if he overcharged us and then demanded more money for an alleged "phone card" that he bought for us, we had finally made it!!! Our San Fran friends, Ryan and Kelly had gotten on the right bus and were there to greet us with open arms.

Kayaking in the quietest place on Earth
Kayaking in the quietest place on Earth
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Ryan and Kelly had been having some rough times in Vietnam, getting scammed left and right, so they had been lying pretty low since we first got to Hanoi, but we all went out to dinner in Halong City and then found a cozy little bar where hopefully they could restore their faith. Bamboo Bar had opened 3 days before we went there and was run by this really nice guy named Phong with his friend Tung (whom we all LOVED). Tung was born in Hanoi, but his father was from Saigon, so Tung says he's truly "Saigon at heart." His father fought for the Americans in the beginning of the Vietnam War, but was put in prison for 8 years at the beginning of the war for fighting for us. When the war was over, he was released from prison and attempted to flee the country to the United States, but his government kept catching him and putting him back in jail. We are so unsure sometimes here how some Vietnamese feel when we say that we are

Nice swan dive... almost straight into the boats!
Nice swan dive... almost straight into the boats!
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Americans, and Tung really restored any doubts we had. He was one of the first genuine smiles we have all encountered here in Vietnam, not just to sell us stuff, but to make friends. It was great talking to Vietnamese people of our generation and being able to say, "Hey, it's not wartime anymore. We come here in peace, looking to make friends." Our generation, starting with our tourism into these other countries such as Vietnam, is what is going to change any bitter

feelings from old battles. He's dying to come visit America, so we all promised him he had a place to crash if he made it. I'm not sure what the Visa situation is for him trying to get one for the US, but he was making it seem like it was pretty tough. Great night at the Bamboo Bar, Tung let Kelly play bartender

Kayaking through a cave
Kayaking through a cave
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and show him how to make fancy drinks and Ryan brought his iPod in to play DJ. Kevin, of course, could not end the night there, but dragged me to some tiny

little food vendor at 3:30 AM where all they eat are noodles and raw eggs. The locals just absolutely gawked at us the entire time, as the owner urged Kevin

to eat the raw eggs and I sat praying that the monster rats wouldn't attack us and thanking my lucky stars that I'm not Kevin who had to take a shot of some awful alcoholic substance out of an old Coke bottle that the locals had him drink with them. We're sure that it contained cobra and scorpions at some point. It was on to Halong Bay the next morning. Halong Bay is Vietnam's second World Heritage site. It's made up of hundreds of massive limestone cliffs jutting out of the Gulf of Tonkin. Legend has it that a giant dragon created Halong Bay when he fled from his home in the mountains towards the coast into the water. His enormous tail carved out all of the cliffs and rock formations that protrude from the emerald bay. Halong actually translates into "where the dragon descends into the sea."

The whole gang at Bamboo Bar
The whole gang at Bamboo Bar
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We all hopped onto an overnight boat filled with 16 tourists (more than half American, surprisingly) and 8 bedrooms. The boat had a really great set-up with a huge sundeck with lounge chairs on top and then a big dining room underneath. All the bedrooms were down below, right near the lovely engine. It really does lull you right to sleep. :) We spent the day boating through the limestone cliffs (no suntan for us as it was cold and rainy) and stopped to check out Halong Bay's biggest and most beautiful cave. This thing was huge and filled with hundreds of tourists pushing their way through the crowd to get a good camera shot.

Picture this... but with blue skies. Heaven.
Picture this... but with blue skies. Heaven.
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Our favorite part of the trip was when we got to take our own kayaks with the guide. It was only 6 of us and you really could just go at whatever pace you pleased, so it was very relaxing to get away from the hustle and bustle of the whole tour group thing and set meal times and everything. At one point we went through a small cave in the side of a cliff and entered the most peaceful place on Earth. I swear, I have never heard anything so quiet. You could whisper and it would echo through this little haven amidst all the limestone structures. It was absolutely beautiful. My favorite limestone cliff looked just like Castle Greyskull from He-Man (I think my brother is the only other person who will understand what this means). I yelled "Castle Greyskull from He-Man!" as soon as I spotted it, only to be received by blank stares from the rest of the kayaking group. Thankfully Ryan has a random brain like myself and said, "Totally," agreeing with my observation. Maybe he just felt bad for me and really didn't know what I  was talking about but who knows... haha.

Kelly playing bartender with Phong and Tung at Bamboo Bar - the nicest guys ever!
Kelly playing bartender with Phong and Tung at Bamboo Bar - the nicest guys ever!
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Kevin wanted to jump out of the kayak for a swim, but it was about a 100% chance that his actions would have us both tipped over in the water, camera and all, so it wasn't worth taking the risk. Besides, he got to swim as soon as we got back from kayaking. We all wanted to go swimming, but at that point it was pretty late in the day and it was getting very cold, so Kelly and I called it a day while Ryan and Kevin jumped off the top of the boat. Our boat was surrounded by little feisty Vietnamese women selling Oreos and Pringles in boats yelling, "You buy from me! You buy from me nowwww!" and on Kevin's first jump, he almost jumped right into one of those little boats. It would have made for an interesting picture, but might have caused more havoc with these seriously aggressive little ladies. They really can be vicious - we saw two get into a fight over who was selling a pack of Pringles to a tourist and one of the ladies started screaming and hitting the competition with a stick!

Late-night noodles, easy on the rat, please.
Late-night noodles, easy on the rat, please.
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The boat tour was very relaxing and Halong Bay is very beautiful. I can only imagine how stunning it must look with blues skies and the sun out. I can see how the people who come here during the warmer season stay for days on these things, just laying out on the sundeck and jumping off the boats. I'm a little envious, but we had our own misty/rainy enchanting experience.

We're heading back to Hanoi and hopping on an overnight train down to Hue on the 11th. We'll see how that goes! More public transportation, here we come!

At the boat landing - all the boats pretty much look more or less the same.
At the boat landing - all the boats pretty much look more or less the same.
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P.S. I'll add more pictures in a day or two when we get to a faster computer!


Joe and Joan avatar Joe and Joan on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
Loved the article. All those sales people sound like they have been around Kevin too long - buy it nooowwwwwww! Getting past war experiences is unbelievably tough. Jobie was VERY upset when CC bought a Japanese automobile - he and his friends had too many wartime experiences to forgive and forget. Love Hulong Bay! Be safe! Joan
Steve and Marty avatar Steve and Marty on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
It's so nice that you were able to talk (at length) with Tung; that must have been eye-opening hearing about the war from his perspective. During our European travels back in 1974, Dad and I met a lot of Germans from our generation who were trying to get beyond the WWII, even when their parents could not.
amwink15 avatar amwink15 on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
haha, and Holly your the one who has to Kiss Kevin after drinking that stuff dont forget!
Nan avatar Nan on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
HI holly and kevin. I really enjoyed this write up. Took me back to Vietnam and those very gentle sweet people heff and i saw. I began hyperventilating with you in those tunnels
anamenas avatar anamenas on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
Hi Holly and Kevin! your blog its such a help for my trip to vietnam in next june! thank you!
Joe and Joan avatar Joe and Joan on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
Kevin and Holly, I think your title for this blog could me the new company motto. It use to be "Buy or Die". (actually some of these commercial brokers around here can be pretty tough) I think "You buy from me!You buy from me nowwww!" is much better. Now back to March Madness!
Cal K IV avatar Cal K IV on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
Kev, how bad have your war flashbacks been? I know it must be hard being back on enemy soil. Hang in there!
Joe and Joan avatar Joe and Joan on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
Kevin, As I mentioned to you in a previous email or text message as time goes on and your time away from home grows longer I am really missing Hollyworld more and more, and you a little bit too Kevin. Erin called from Naples with Anna to wish us Happy St Pats day (mainly for Joan who is a Kelly girl afterall)Is St Pats day even known in Saigon? Have fun but be safe!
chriswarren09 avatar chriswarren09 on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said
Looks like a pretty beautiful place. Too bad your missing the NCAA backetball tournament. That was pretty poor planning on your part. Live and learn I guess. You are stuck in the boonies in Nam and I am here watching Louisville play Stanford. Too bad for you guys!!
csanz avatar csanz on Mar. 12, 2007 @ 10:52PM said

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